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[05:43]<@bc_programming> sigh
[05:43]<@bc_programming> the program crashes on XP and I have no fecking clue why
[05:44]<Serpent> because your BC is not in Caps? :)
[05:46]<@bc_programming> yeah, I'm sure that's it, it makes perfect sense that the nickname I chose using xchat on my otherwise disjoint Linux Mint 10 machine would be directly responsible for program crashes occuring on a guest OS running in VMWare on a completely separate machine
[05:46]<@bc_programming> just for that I'm not changing my nick now
[05:48]<Serpent> heh
[05:48]<Serpent> your rants are always impressive :)
[05:49]<@bc_programming> thanks. If you can't tell this issue is pissing me off
[05:49]<@bc_programming> would be nice if I could get some bloody information about the crash from windows XP
[05:50]<@bc_programming> not this "This Program has encountered a problem and needs to close" crap with utterly useless "debugging" information. It crashes before it even get's to any of my code
[05:50]<@bc_programming> I'd install Visual studio to find out, but the virtual machine doesn't have enough disk space, grrr
[05:51]<@bc_programming> and that would take about 5 hours to install anyway
[05:54]<@bc_programming> oh hey I convinced it to actually give me some useful info by forcing myself into the application exception handler
[05:55]<@bc_programming> AH HA! see now we have something "The Type Initializer for 'BCJobClockLib.DataLayer' threw an Exception"
[05:55]<@bc_programming> I now know where the problem is at least
[05:55]<@bc_programming> now to find out what it is, "an Exception" is a bit vague
[05:57]<+camerongray> Windows Phone is so nice to develop for
[05:57]<@bc_programming> well at least somebody is enjoying themselves, haha
[05:57]<+camerongray> bc_programming, Do you have any experience of Silverlight?
[05:57]<@bc_programming> not directly, I can work with WPF, which is apparently a superset of it from what I hear
[05:57]<+camerongray> I have 2 xaml files for two pages in the app and I need to switch between them
[05:58]<+camerongray> Using C#
[05:58]<@bc_programming> oh
[05:58]<@bc_programming> hmm
[05:58]<@bc_programming> well I'm not really used to dealing with XAML and stuff like that in a web context
[05:58]<+camerongray> Not a web context
[05:58]<+camerongray> Just two forms in the application
[05:59]<@bc_programming> set the visibility of the two forms?
[05:59]<+camerongray> Need it when a button on the main page is pressed it takes the user to another page
[05:59]<+camerongray> I thought that but there are no methods like that
[06:00]<@bc_programming> this.NavigationService.Navigate(new Uri("secondpage.xaml",UriKind.Relative));
[06:00]<+camerongray> Will try that now
[06:01]<@bc_programming> apparently you need to add the appropriate mappings into the frame tag or something
[06:02]<@bc_programming> another suggestion was App.Current.Host.NavigationState = "/Welcome";
[06:02]<@bc_programming> I'm getting these from here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1498071/c-sharp-silverlight-3-programmatically-navigate-between-pages
[06:03]<+camerongray> Thanks
[06:03]<@bc_programming> np
[06:05]<+camerongray> Oh no - "America Next Top Model" just came on - Must find remote!
[06:05]<+camerongray> Phew! - That was a close oen
[06:05]<+camerongray> one*
[06:06]<@bc_programming> heh I went to open the special debug output log that I made it write that shows everything about the Exception Object, and couldn't figure out why it wasn't anything like I expected
[06:06]<@bc_programming> then I noticed it said the exception occured in "SplashScreen"... turned out I was looking at the log file for when I was working on BASeBlock
[06:08]<@bc_programming> hmm
[06:09]<@bc_programming> "could not find part of the path "C:\Documents And Settings\Administrator\ApplicationData\BCJobClock\Images" appears the be the source of the error
[06:09]<@bc_programming> oh
[06:09]<@bc_programming> the setup program didn't install it right
[06:10]<Serpent> and that's all? a horrible Exception error... hehe
[06:11]<@bc_programming> it was unhandled so it crashed the application
[06:11]<@bc_programming> the main annoyance is I have to go through all sorts of crap just to find out what the crash was.. otherwise all I know is "something bad happened. Check this data file if you want to see some unrelated garbage"
[06:12]<Serpent> lol
[06:12]<@bc_programming> so now it starts
[06:12]<Serpent> how true :)
[06:12]<@bc_programming> it's funny because people think that the "more information about this report" and other information is useful to the people that wrote the program
[06:13]<@bc_programming> it's not, it's more useful to find out how many people are having similar issues, otherwise it's just gibberish that takes loads of time to correlate with anything useful
[06:14]<@bc_programming> still have to tweak the virtual machine so it can access the database server
[06:14]<@bc_programming> I feel enterpriset
[06:14]<@bc_programming> enterprisey*
[06:18]<@bc_programming> Holy crap it works
[06:18]<@bc_programming> I am able to mess about with users and orders and stuff
[06:18]<@bc_programming> I suppose after I should figure out why BASeBlock crashes with a NullReferenceException, but I'm not getting paid for BASeBlock work, heh
[06:19]<@bc_programming> need to test the client app
[06:19]<@bc_programming> aww it crashes
[06:20]<@bc_programming> "System.ArgumentOutOfRange"
[06:20] * @bc_programming copy-pastes the General Exception handler from the admin program to the client...
[06:26]<@bc_programming> wut... I'm passing 0 for a buffersize of something
[06:27]<@bc_programming> lol... the reason for the error was an error in my error handling
[06:30]<@bc_programming> ooooh
[06:31]<@bc_programming> I forgot that I threaded the Database opening, and the poor client tries to use the connection before it's open
[06:31]<@bc_programming> poor little fella
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[07:38]<@bc_programming> sup Mulreay
[07:38]<@jacky> bc_programming: Hello
[07:38]<@jacky> Mulreay: Hello
[07:38]<@bc_programming> hello Jacky
[07:38]<+Mulreay> hey bc_programming... hey jacky... on mobile broadband so not sure how long before a ping out
[07:39]<@jacky> where are you, now?
[07:40]<+Mulreay> was having withdrawal IRC symtoms... I'm in London
[07:40]<@jacky> thought so, wasn't sure
[07:40]<@jacky> about London, that is
[07:40]<@jacky> dunno about about withdrawal
[07:40]<@jacky> heeheheh
[07:40]<+Mulreay> heh
[07:41]<@jacky> try hard.. you can wean yourself from talking to BC. Heck... I can go for days without talking to him
[07:41]<@jacky> <eg>
[07:41]<@bc_programming> yeah without even trying too
[07:41]<@jacky> almost effortsless....
[07:42]<@bc_programming> for some reason I had to add this to my C# application.. there are these "Permission" classes you can define so I made one called "FinestBacon"
[07:42]<@bc_programming> merely so I could say "FinestBacon.Demand()"
[07:42]<+Mulreay> heh, I was watching one of his videos and thought... I miss bc_programming... I played 'Smile, Smile, Smile' to my Mum not 10 minutes ago and she hugged me. That deserves a hello to bc_programming
[07:42]<@bc_programming> haha
[07:42]<@jacky> How is your mother? ... doing well, I hope
[07:44]<+Mulreay> We got the results from the op 2 days ago and the doctors say that they couldn't have asked for anthing better... best result any of us could have asked for.... she has radio therapy now for a month and she's on tablets for 5 years but the doctors and we are really happy with the results as far... thanks for asking buddy :)
[07:44]<@bc_programming> good news
[07:44]<+Mulreay> yeah, thanks
[07:44]<@jacky> ... and the doctors say that they couldn't have asked for anthing better <<<< FANTASTIC! that's just great!!
[07:44]<@jacky> :)
[07:44]<@bc_programming> I think that deserves another FinestBacon.Demand() in fact
[07:45]<+Mulreay> heh
[07:45]<+Mulreay> thanks jacky
[07:50]<+Mulreay> Just told my mum what you said and she said 'Thank you very much'. to you both
[07:50]<@bc_programming> the bacon was actually for me I admit
[07:50]<+Mulreay> heh
[07:51]<+Mulreay> What's new? bc_programming did you get that job?
[07:51]<+Mulreay> freelance that is
[07:51]<@bc_programming> oh yes
[07:52]<@bc_programming> working on it now
[07:52]<+Mulreay> sweet
[07:52]<@bc_programming> testing it on my XP machine, admin tool works client app refuses to connect to the DB
[07:52]<+Mulreay> happy for you
[07:52]<@bc_programming> still work to be done but sure I'll figger it
[07:52]<@bc_programming> thx
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[07:54]<@bc_programming> how confusing, they are both using the same bloody connection string and yet the client is all "wassup dawg I can't connect to yo server"
[07:54]<Graham> F'ing mobile shiteband
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[08:28]<+camerongray> bc, You there?
[08:28]<@bc_programming> yes
[08:28]<+camerongray> Cool - need a bit help
[08:28]<@bc_programming> ok
[08:29]<+camerongray> I need a way in PHP to remove all occurances of this string:<a href="javascript:displayPdf("http://lothianbuses.com/images/stories/pdf_downloads/service_timetables/r[NUMBER].pdf")"> where [NUMBER] can be any number ( 1 or 2 digits)
[08:29]<+camerongray> I know I need to use preg_replace but have no idea what pattern to use
[08:30]<@bc_programming> k gimme a bit
[08:30]<+camerongray> Cool - Thanks
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[08:36]<+camerongray> I have no clue when it comes to regex :P
[08:37]<+camerongray> I need it to parse an HTML page into an array of bus times - Fun fun fun!
[08:39]<@bc_programming> <a href=\"javascript:displayPdf\("http://lothianbuses\.com/images/stories/pdf_downloads/service_timetables/r\d{1,2}\.pdf"\)\">
[08:39]<@bc_programming> that should be the regex, unless I copied it from the other screen wrong
[08:40]<@bc_programming> RegExBuddy doesn't have a PHP setting but I think it's the same as Perl iirc
[08:41]<+camerongray> Ahh - Thanks!
[08:43]<+camerongray> That woked - Will try regexbuddy for the rest - never knew about it
[08:43]<@bc_programming> yeah I bought RegExBuddy quite a while ago along with editpad pro, awesome apps
[08:43]<@bc_programming> regexbuddy is like a Regular Expression IDE
[08:43]<+camerongray> Ahh - No trial :P
[08:44]<@bc_programming> well I "trialed" it before I bought it, heh
[08:44]<+camerongray> lol
[08:44]<+camerongray> Ahh - Cnet have a 7 day one
[08:45]<@bc_programming> now to figure out why the heck the admin windows forms program connects to my MySQL database with no issues and yet the WPF program, using the exact same connectionstring says it can't connect to any of the specified hosts >:(
[08:47]<+camerongray> Erm... How do you use regexbuddy? :P
[08:47]<@bc_programming> carefully
[08:48]<+camerongray> lol
[08:48]<@bc_programming> you use the "Create" tab to create new ones, where you can type the regular expression up top and it shows you what it will do at the bottom
[08:48]<@bc_programming> then you can "test" it using the test tab
[08:49]<@bc_programming> I've not really used the debug thing,I figure any regex complicated enough to need debugging is a bit of a lost cause
[08:49]<@bc_programming> also you might find the "Library" useful as well, lots of ready-made expressions
[08:56]<+camerongray> What does this bit mean: "\d{1,2}"
[08:57]<@bc_programming> \d means to match any digit
[08:57]<@bc_programming> {1,2} means to match the previous item a minimum of 1 and a maximum of 2 times
[08:59]<+camerongray> Cool
[09:00]<+camerongray> Hmm - What would I do to simply replace anything in <>?
[09:00]<+camerongray> I should be able to just strip all the tags out
[09:01]<@bc_programming> I think \<.*\>
[09:01]<@bc_programming> but I'm not sure
[09:01]<+camerongray> Oh :P http://php.net/manual/en/function.strip-tags.php
[09:01]<@bc_programming> or you could just use that, heh
[09:02]<+camerongray> Nope - the php function doesn't strip it all
[09:03]<+camerongray> Oh it does - was passing the stripped text into the wrong variable
[09:03]<@bc_programming> haha
[09:04]<+camerongray> Now I just need to make this into csv :P 36236984 Pentland Terrace / Ocean Terminal - Hyvots Bank11 HYVOTS BANK 5 11 HYVOTS BANK 5 11 HYVOTS BANK 7 11 HYVOTS BANK 9 36236984 Pentland Terrace / Penicuik -- Stoneybank15 PENICUIK 35 15 PENICUIK 17:40 15 PENICUIK *17:47 15 PENICUIK *18:17 36236984 Pentland Terrace / Penicuik - S
[09:04]<+camerongray> toneybank15A PENICUIK 5 15A PENICUIK *40
[09:05]<@bc_programming> well I'm figured <something> out, not sure what yet
[09:06]<@bc_programming> seems it's not WPF related since I started a new project and I can open the connection fine there...
[09:07]<@bc_programming> oh wait no I didn't, I'm supposed to test it in the VM, of course it works on the desktop
[09:09]<@bc_programming> hmm... yes, it does work
[09:09]<@bc_programming> weird
[09:09]<@bc_programming> oh
[09:09]<@bc_programming> if this works I am going to mildly annoyed...
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[09:25]<@bc_programming> WPNBG
[09:25]<@bc_programming> This is going to make ME RAGE
[09:26]<@bc_programming> EXACTLY the same fecking connection strings on exactly the same fecking machine connecting to exactly the same fecking database
[09:26]<@bc_programming> works in one application, doesn't work on another
[09:26]<@bc_programming> I try to follow the one damned lead I have ,which is that one of the applications is WPF while the other is iwndows forms by creating a WPF application and trying to connect ot hte database using the exact same bloody code and it works fine
[09:27]<@bc_programming> why is it with ONE APPLICATION it says "oh, I can't connect to that MySQL host" while everything else works fecking fine
[09:27]<@bc_programming> I tried checfking permissions with the abortion of security crap that Microsoft implemented in WPF, but all I can do is "demand" permissions, the result is that absolutely nothing different happens
[09:27]<@bc_programming> "database connection failed: Unable to connect to any of the specified MySQL hosts"
[09:27]<+camerongray> Last one - How would I remove {ANYTHING} from <p class="displayService" id="range1"><a href="javascript:displayPdf("http://lothianbuses.com/images/stories/pdf_downloads/service_timetables/r11.pdf";)">{ANYTHING}</a></p> where {ANYTHING} is a string of any length
[09:28]<@bc_programming> is the connector more specific? of course not ,that might actually tell my WHY it could connect to the hosts
[09:28]<@bc_programming> couldn't*
[09:28]<@bc_programming> just "unable to connect"
[09:28]<@bc_programming> really? you would think after 40+ years of the industry they might start to pass back some actual relevant information, may as well have the fecking exceptions all be "somethingbadException" for all their messages are work
[09:28]<@bc_programming> worth*
[09:29]<@bc_programming> ps regex would be *.
[09:29]<@bc_programming> * to match any single character, and . to match preceding item zero or more times
[09:38]<@bc_programming> woah hold on
[09:38]<@bc_programming> I think I'm on to something here
[09:38]<@bc_programming> -_-
[09:38]<@bc_programming> you've got to be FECKING kidding me
[09:39]<@bc_programming> I deleted the BCJobClock.exe.config file and it started working fine
[09:39]<@bc_programming> that makes no sense!
[09:40]<@bc_programming> though the client doesn't actually scale, grr I thought I got that automagically with wpf
[09:42]<@bc_programming> haha I cheated
[09:42]<@bc_programming> I just used a "viewbox" which scales it, haha
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Session Start: Fri Dec 23 11:21:09 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [11:21] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[11:21]<@bc_programming> or you can make the textbox's instancing "public" and just go formobject.textbox1.text directly
[11:21]<+camerongray> Cool, let me try that
[11:24]<+camerongray> Got this error: Error 1 An object reference is required for the non-static field, method, or property 'Edinburgh_Bus_Tracker_CSharp.stopCodeEntry.getCode()' i:\documents\visual studio 2010\Projects\Edinburgh Bus Tracker CSharp\Edinburgh Bus Tracker CSharp\showBusTimes.xaml.cs 28 117 Edinburgh Bus Tracker CSharp
[11:25]<@bc_programming> form OBJECT
[11:25]<@bc_programming> not form class name
[11:25]<@bc_programming> this isn't any different than it is in VB.NET, afaik
[11:27]<@bc_programming> How are you showing the form?
[11:28]<+camerongray> this.NavigationService.Navigate(new Uri("/showBusTimes.xaml", UriKind.Relative));
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[11:30]<+camerongray> hey Craig
[11:30]<Craig> Hey Cam
[11:30]<Craig> Had a bit of a glitch with my router... :S
[11:30]<+camerongray> Ahh
[11:30]<Craig> Stupid router wants to take the IP from the gateway instead of my static... :(
[11:30]<@bc_programming> pretty sure when you navigate away from a form it goes away
[11:30]<Craig> ?
[11:31]<@bc_programming> so it's a WPF browser application right?
[11:31]<+camerongray> No - WPF Windows Phone 7
[11:32]<@bc_programming> oh. you're using .NET 4. should have considered that. I have absolutely no idea what you are dealing with. what you are seeing as "forms" I have no clue about
[11:32]<+camerongray> Individual XAML files
[11:33]<@bc_programming> yes and there are XAML files in a standalone WPF application too. the fact that it uses XAML is unrelated to what it actually is
[11:33]<@bc_programming> RichTextBoxes save as XAML, for example
[11:34]<+camerongray> Ahh - It's just like a standard WPF application but with a different UI designed for phones
[11:34]<@bc_programming> except that you also change what form you are looking at using NavigationService whereas in a standard app you would just create an instance and show it...
[11:35]<+camerongray> Ahh, and that :P
[11:36]<@bc_programming> actually have you tried doing it that way
[11:37]<+camerongray> Yeh, doesn't work
[11:38]<@bc_programming> well if you just want to get some input, you could not use a second page/form in the first place
[11:38]<@bc_programming> for my program what I did was I made the "prompts" just be panels I show/hide on the single form
[11:40]<+camerongray> Ahh
[11:40]<+camerongray> Surely there should be a way though
[11:41]<@bc_programming> well from the sounds of it you have to use a web type model for multiple forms, so they aren't really forms but rather pages, so you would end up having to do something like pass info back and forth via POST type info or something
[11:42]<+camerongray> Ahh]
[11:44]<+camerongray> ooooh - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4143383/wp7-pass-parameter-to-new-page
[11:50]<+camerongray> Fixed it
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[11:57]<Craig> @ Mulreay Strong and proud on your website. :) Brokedcomputer :)
[12:02]<@bc_programming> hmm been meaning to try out cobalt
[12:17]<@bc_programming> anyway just uploaded the first version of the program now that I've tested it and it works on XP to the site
[12:18]<@bc_programming> still have a few days to do further testing and make improvements and so forth too

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Session Start: Fri Dec 23 12:55:08 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [12:55] * Now talking in #glitchpc
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[15:37]<@bc_programming> So Anyway, that's why I stopped keeping frozen cat heads in my deep freeze. Wel still laugh about it from time to time, even if eating cheese still reminds us of that dreadful event

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Session Start: Fri Dec 23 16:55:11 2011 Session Ident: #glitchpc [16:55] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[16:55] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[17:07]<@bc_programming> I wonder if anybody actually tries to play The Sims legitimately
[17:07]<@bc_programming> I always give them millions of dollars and put golden toilets everywhere
[17:45]<@bc_programming> there, I made a bunch of food in MonoDevelop
[17:45]<@bc_programming> I even made a FinestBacon class that derived from CodeAccessPermission
[17:45]<@bc_programming> FinestBacon fb = new FinestBacon();
[17:46]<@bc_programming> fb.Demand() //I DEMAND YOUR FINEST BACON
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